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Doctors claim to have created "modern medicine" which eliminated infant mortality, infectious disease. But that was actually sanitation, ie plumbers, engineers.
And yet, "health care" burns up nearly 20% of our industrial capacity.
What exactly do you do here?
@wolftivy Infectious diseases basically bottomed out around 1950. US male lifespan at birth in 1900 is 46.3, 65.6 in 1950. So naively plumbers get us 20 years. US male lifespan today is ~76, so cancer, heart, etc gets us another ~11 years.
It's not nothing. 1/
@wolftivy Probably at least some fraction of the 1900..1950 work is also vaccines (somewhat medicine), toxins (again somewhat), diagnostics (mostly physics), antibiotics -- a big one.
Plumbing is great, yes, but it's very much a team effort. 2/
@handleym99 Gotta start with a hard opening position. Make them sweat, justify themselves.
@wolftivy My position is that attacking the doctors (or medicine generally) will not cure the problem. The problem is the two issues I identified, and the fact that people feel a need to *signal* aggressively regarding both of them. That desire to signal is the engine driving the costs.
@handleym99 No I think the narrative that health care is sacred and worth it and untouchable needs to be absolutely broken. "Ban healthcare" is crazy, but way less crazy than the public thinks.
@handleym99 Most of the problems healthcare "solves" are better solved in other ways. Health care's monopolization of attention and effort are actively standing in the way of solution.
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